Latest ASUU strike update-As ASUU president give update in an Interview today
ASUU PRESIDENT OSODEKE IN AN INTERVIEW SPEAKS ON THE ONGOING STRIKE ACTIONS
❓Is ASUU not concerned that students may lose a whole session to the strike?
Let me explain to you: When you come to my
house, I have six children and relatives who are
staying with me at home because of the strike.
They are here with me, I am taking care of them.
I am making the sacrifice as well. But for me
and my children that I have educated, it is better for us to make this sacrifice to have a university system that you will be proud of, to have education your will be proud of, to have an education system where everybody will be in this class, whether you are the son of the minister, you are the son of the President or you are the son of a lawmaker, all of us we are in the same class. That we don’t have classses among the Nigerian children. That is what we are fighting for. It’s their struggle also. It is not just ASUU’s struggle. It is a collective struggle. I have been at home for six months with my family, even with challenges.
❓So, what is ASUU’s relationship with sister unions in the university system, because it seems you sometimes have contradicting demands?
We are working in the same system. We ought
to be working together. But our past experiences and what has also been shown now show that it might be impossible to work together. The government says it is going to seize the salaries of your members and you say you are calling off strike. Besides, we didn’t go on strike together.
We started first. We have our own issues, they
have their own. So, they have a right to do their
own. And we also have a right to do our own.
And that is where we are. Government will prefer it to look as if unions on campus are fighting themselves. We will never fight against ourselves. We have e a common problem, but I hope our other colleagues also know that we
have a common problem and not union problem in the universities.
❓There are reports that FG is planning to
proscribe ASUU. Are you not worried?
No, we are not worried.
❓What is ASUU’s reaction to government’s move to register CONUA?
We don’t know what they call CONUA.
CONUA is the Congress of University Academics that claims to have broken away from ASUU and is a faction of the union.
We do not have any faction. I don’t think we
should waste our time on what does not exist. If we have a faction, why is it that all the
universities are closed? Why are their members also on strike? See, we should not be playing to these people who are just looking for ways to distract the issues at stake of why we are on strike. These are just distractions. Instead of addressing the issues, you want to go and raise a team of one or two men to say we have a faction? They have done it during the military and it didn’t work, is it now that it’s going to work? So, they should concentrate on the issues. It will be easier for the government to address the issues than testing to see how they can mobilize a group. Why are they coming out this time?
Government should look at how to resolve the
problem so that these children can go back to
school. And all these distractions they are doing here and there, “No-work-no-pay, we want to punish you, we want to set up another group.” So, those are just distractions.
❓Why should government pay backlog of wages to ASUU members that have not worked for the past six months?
You see, for me, I really don’t want to comment
on this issue but let me also tell you that academic staff are different from other staff. Whenever we go back to work, we are going to start work from where we stopped. We are going to teach people who are 2021, 2022. We are going to reach them. Those things we should have done during the strike, we are going back to do all these work. We have to graduate all these sets of students, bring them up to date.
And then we move on. In doing that, we will
sacrifice our leave. An academic session is 34
weeks in a year, 17 weeks per semester. If we
deduct 34 weeks from 56 weeks, what does it
give you? You have 22 weeks. The time we are
supposed to use for our leave, for our research,
we are going to sacrifice it to make up and catch up with the backlog. So, if you say you are not going to pay for that period, it means you are saying we should leave out the strike period.
Let’s start from 2022 to 2023. What will happen
to those students who are in those areas? This
set of people that JAMB has admitted, will Nigerian government say we should allow them to go? And start a new one? So, that is the difference. When we go on strike, when we
come back, we have to do backlog of what we
didn’t do while we were on strike. And we are
not going to do it for free after you have
punished us. I just lost a member two days ago
in Uniport.
It so sad that this government is reducing this
country to this level. You deliberately delay
negotiations so that you can punish them. I think Nigerians should rise against this, in the interest of these children who have stayed at home for so long.
Even the children are going to go back to also face the problem. If you were having six-hour lectures in a day before, you are going to now have eight or 10 hours. So, that is what we are going to do, to make up for the backlog. You don’t say lecturers should throw that period away and start a new one. Please, Nigerian people should know that we are not asking government to pay us for work not done. An academic staff is not paid per hour. We are paid per work done.
❓Should ASUU dictate to FG how to pay its members?
This issue has come up again. Let me tell you, if you are working in an area, and the system of
paying you is faulty, it is fraudulent, as a union of academics, will you close your eyes and pretend that it is good? You heard the Minister of Digital Economy say that IPPIS is corrupt. It’s bad. It’s not fair. The letter should have even done a letter commending us for raising this issue
Commending us to ensure that all the monies
that have been stolen from our salaries using IPPIS that we are the ones who are raising that it’s not correct. In a normal country, we would be commended. And, two, in normal countries of the world, where things are working, if government has a problem, you go to the academics, to the universities, to look for a solution, not attacking the universities. So, what we are doing is a national duty. Government has paid hundreds of billions of dollars for that IPPIS to foreign countries. .
And we have developed one that can go round the whole country, and you don’t pay one kobo, developed by your own people for you. You can correct anything any day. And people are busy asking whether employer and employee. When you go the way you are reasoning, it becomes a master-slave relationship, which ASUU will not accept. And this has been sorted and government has accepted that IPPIS is bad. IPPIS and UTAS were tested and IPPIS was far below and UTAS scored very high. Tested by a government agency. I think government should commend ASUU for this national duty we have done for this country and accept it and move on.
Are there no other ways of pressing home your
demands aside from these incessant strikes?
Can you suggest one to us? Because, as far as
we are concerned, we had done everything
before we went on strike. We addressed the
press, met with the President, met with the
Senate President, met with all sorts of people to appeal with the government, mobilized people, talked to parents. We have done all these. If we have done all these and the government did not do anything, so what else do we do? We have asked this country this question.
❓How have your members been coping for six months without salary?
Many of my colleagues have gone to borrow
money from banks to survive and, when they go back, they are going to pay heavy interest. So, everyone is making a sacrifice. When we were children, we made some sacrifices. Some of our colleagues died in the course of this struggle.
“Ali Must Go,” remember? And it yielded some
products, which is the TETFund that you have
today everywhere. So, it is a collective thing,
and, in future, if it works, they will be so proud
that they were the set of students who were in
school that time when this battle was fought and won. I appeal to them, they should just have patience. Hoping that government will begin to look in our direction, will begin to take education as a priority, and we will have a system that is good. That is the struggle and we hope that they understand.
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